What if psychic ability isn’t reserved for a gifted few, but something everyone can learn to recognize? Psychic healer and medium Jana Stern joins Jaime Marco and Stan Brown to share how childhood sensitivity, trauma, a near-death experience, and years of suppressing what she was hearing eventually led her to embrace her intuitive abilities. Jana explores psychic literacy, mediumship, Human Design, energetic boundaries, and practical ways to become more aware of signs and messages from loved ones who have passed.
What if the intuition you’ve learned to dismiss is actually something you can strengthen?
In this episode of What’s Your Story?, Jaime Marco and Stan Brown welcome Canadian psychic healer and medium Jana Stern for an open conversation about psychic ability, intuition, trauma, mediumship, spirituality, and learning to trust your own inner awareness.
Jana describes herself as an emotional projector in Human Design and says she has been highly sensitive and “tapped in” since childhood. She recalls hearing crystals, receiving information intuitively, sensing other people’s emotions, and often knowing what friends needed to hear before she understood those experiences as psychic or intuitive. At the same time, growing up with a biological father who experienced schizophrenia made hearing voices something she learned to fear and suppress.
In her 20s, Jana experienced an eating disorder, significant mental-health struggles, and a suicide attempt that led to what she describes as an 11-minute near-death experience. She recalls encountering her great-grandmothers and being given a choice to return—an experience that became a turning point in how she understood her life and abilities.
From there, Jana immersed herself in therapy alongside the study of metaphysics, astrology, Kabbalah, meditation, and Quantum Human Design. Rather than viewing psychic ability as something available only to mediums, Jana now teaches what she calls psychic literacy—her belief that everyone has intuitive capacity but may have been conditioned not to recognize or trust it. She compares developing those abilities to strengthening a muscle through repetition and awareness.
The conversation also explores the importance of energetic boundaries. Jana explains that earlier in her life she sometimes felt compelled to approach strangers when she believed she was receiving messages from their deceased loved ones. Over time, she learned to create stronger boundaries around when and how she engages in mediumship, helping her protect her own emotional and mental well-being. She also discusses why she does not believe in delivering frightening predictions or “bad news,” emphasizing free will and personal choice instead.
Jana even demonstrates her process during the episode, describing a feminine presence she feels around Jaime and Stan and explaining how, in her experience, spirit communication works like a switchboard—connecting the person receiving the message with someone meaningful from their life.
For listeners wondering how to connect with someone who has passed, Jana offers a surprisingly simple starting point: get quiet, remove distractions, think specifically about the person, and establish a meaningful symbol connected to your relationship. She shares examples including dream catchers, ladybugs, coins, dates, and repeating numbers, encouraging listeners to notice what appears and decide what meaning those signs hold for them.
Jana also describes her work with clients as a kind of “psychic boot camp,” combining intuitive development with an exploration of childhood conditioning, personal stories, astrology, Human Design, and the beliefs that may keep people from fully expressing who they are.
Whether you consider yourself deeply spiritual, naturally intuitive, or completely skeptical, this conversation offers a fascinating look at one woman’s journey from fearing her sensitivity to building a life and career around it.
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Hello, Dad.
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>> I understand today may be an experience of a little talk, but more.
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>> Yes, I told you a little bit about our our guest today. I mean, I feel like we
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could chat a little bit about what's going on, but I'm so excited for this
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guest. So, she's joining us from Canada. Pretty pumped. I've never met her
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before. And I say we just let her in and kind of go from there. What do you
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think? I
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>> just want to know if you communicate by thoughts, how much does a thought weigh?
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What? Okay, we're letting you in.
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No, you say things sometimes and I'm like like where does that thought come
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from?
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>> Hello. Hello.
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>> Where does that thought come from?
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>> You heard?
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>> Valid.
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>> You heard me. Oh,
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>> I didn't hear the thought, but I heard the where does that thought come from?
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>> You're lucky you didn't like it. I don't even know. It's so nice to meet you.
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Hello. I I was waiting on another link.
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>> Oh, that's I don't know.
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>> It was very strange.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And then I got your email and I was like it said waiting for host to join and I
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was like okay. And then I was like
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>> sorry. You know what? Technology is just you know
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>> I taught her all I could but I fell
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>> about technology. Oh boy.
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>> Started with the epicus. One two still works. Still works.
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too.
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>> Well, it's so nice to meet you. Thank you for being our guest. We're gonna get
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into the story in a minute.
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>> We like to start off all of our conversations with our guest. First of
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all, audience, listeners, meet Janna Stern. Is it Jana? Am I saying it
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correctly?
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>> You say it. Yep. Yep. You got it.
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>> Is that a Howitzer or a professional microphone?
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>> It's a professional microphone. It's a road mic.
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>> Looks great.
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>> But it has I've I've adorned it with a little crystal crown.
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>> Oh, I love that. listener, if you can't, if you were listening on Amazon or
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you're listening on Apple or Spotify, go to YouTube, watch the video because
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you'll see the cool microphone. I thought you said something about
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>> Stern and we have the best looking guest, so just log on fast.
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>> Also, 9 million crystals behind me, so that
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>> usually I have a light that lights up, but it died three minutes before this
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call.
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>> Of course.
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>> Of course. Well, I am like so pumped to talk to you because I just like I've
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looked at your website and I just think you're fascinating. So, but before we
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do, let's ask you this question. On a scale of 1 to 10, what is your number
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today? A 10 is it's a day where there's not a worry in the world. Everything is
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wonderful, sunshine, rainbows, just amazing.
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>> To a one being a day that you shouldn't be peeping. So, and you can use
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decimals. So, what would be your
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>> I 9.7 today, but I was earlier this week I was like a solid two. So, you know,
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it's
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>> Okay. Well, yeah.
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>> Kudos to us.
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>> Yeah. You're welcome. No, I'm kidding. Well, so what would it take? And not
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that we have have to increase a lot, but like you know, obviously you were two
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earlier this week and now you're 9.7. What are some of those things that need
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to happen in your world to help you go 0.25 higher?
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>> Um, well, usually time with people that I care about helps. Um or sometimes time
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alone just like letting myself be twoing for a little while and just feel the
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feeling of like this is not the day. Um, and then you know usually I mean for me
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I'm I don't know if you guys have context for this but I'm an emotional
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projector in human design which is to say the emotions come in waves and they
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come and they go and so the more that I'm like all right we're in the part
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part where the wave is taking me under and I'll just go with the undertoe and
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hope not to die like is that like it being like an
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empath almost?
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>> It's exactly like being an empath. Yes. Mhm.
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>> And so we'll get into what you do now, but that is something that I feel like
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you discover in your life pretty early on, you know, and I'm starting to see I
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have a 10-year-old and I'm starting to kind of see that she connects in a way
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like that, which can be a challenge as well to like that the drive of the
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emotions. It's also, you know, the age of where um, you know, premenstrual
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things are probably happening too.
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>> Yes. Yeah. Or at least hormonal things.
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>> Yeah. Hormonal. Yeah. Yeah. But what age were you when you realized that you have
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that emotional connection to feelings?
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>> Oh my god. So
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>> your room.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like what age did I realize I was emotional? It was like
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infancy. Um I was always an emotional kid and I was always a kid who could tap
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in. Um I have a schizophrenic father biologically. Um and
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that you know that kind of trauma results in a very sensitive child, a kid
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who is very very tapped in, constantly reading the room, what is safe, what's
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not safe, right? So it's it's both. I was always a kid who could hear
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crystals. I could always tap in, but my father heard voices. So hearing voices
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was like not super safe. And so there were many different factors in my life
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of like, yeah, tap in, but don't tap in. you're really really gifted but not
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>> don't be too gifted, right? And then the sensitivities and the extra sensory
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perceptions got shoved down and pushed away. But
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thankfully this generation, your kids generation, they have this incredible
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gift of having a bunch of parents with Pluto and Scorpio. I'm saying a lot of
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different things, but
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>> our generation has this understanding of the way that we parent our children is
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totally different than the way that we were parented.
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>> Right, Dad?
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>> We'll talk about my generation next.
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>> Yeah. Well, it's just the world.
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>> Yeah. The world has changed and it's it's fascinating. So, I want to dive
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into that a bit. So, um, at what age were you when you realized that your
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father had and I is it would be considered like a mental illness? I
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mean,
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>> totally. It's 100% a mental illness. Um,
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>> I don't want to use words that are you I just don't know what's clear. But
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>> I don't I don't do the like I don't do the pretentious version of like, you
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know, mental health struggles. Like he was crazy my whole life before people
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talked about mental health.
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>> Okay.
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>> Never treated. Oh, very treated in and out of institutions my whole life. And
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actually like my life was really about setting those boundaries, realizing how
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unhealthy he was. But that was part of my awareness and my consciousness even
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before I knew it was part of my consciousness. I was two and a half the
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first time he was institutionalized. And when my parents split, I was four. And
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my mom had me and two babies, like my younger brothers. So there were three of
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us under four. So, three babies that were all her kids plus she also had we
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had two huskys and six puppies. There was a lot. My mother was a superhero.
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Um, and my dad was very unwell. He was in and out, in and out, in and out of
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hospital and having many psycho psychotic episodes. Um, and it was so I
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didn't know that that's what it was. It was my normal. But then of course he was
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institutionalized and they got divorced. And then my stepdad came into our lives
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very quickly about nine months later. And so that then became a whole dialogue
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around well, you know, daddy isn't well and and then the change of all those
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things and and then eventually taking my stepdad's last name and he adopted us
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and and we were raised by him and I call him dad and he is the dad known but my
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biological father was always unwell and so there was this like really
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interesting polarity about my lifetime which was I am tapped in with this
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person. And the story around my father and I is so wild because later in life,
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he walked from Toronto during the pandemic to his mother's house in
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Florida. And we all we know is he was missing for 9 days. We don't know what
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happened, where, how he got there. He was just They called me on day three of
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him not being in his home in Toronto. They were like, "He's missing for 48
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hours. Do you think we should call the police?" And I was like, "Uh-huh." And
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then like seven days after that, he showed up at his mother's house. And
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then
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>> he knew where he was going. He was making great time.
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>> He's lived there since he was a teenager. Right. So
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>> when she when he got there, she was like, I can't handle this. And for four
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years, he was basically homeless. And then one day I went to go visit her and
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astrologically what was happening was there was a full moon and Saturn which
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rules the patriarchy and daddy had moved off of my son and I walked across the
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bridge to our home and I was screaming to the heavens, "Okay, dad, I'm home.
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Dad, come home." And the following night at 2:00 in the morning on the full moon,
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he showed up at our front door. It is totally inexplicable. So he's also very
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psychically connected and very gifted and very
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>> Yeah. Well, and like it's a thin line.
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>> Yeah. Well, like there's got to be that like Yeah, because like you think about
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like the beautiful mind with Russell um with
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>> Correct. That's exactly it,
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>> right? Like was he really I mean like I'm not saying he's not schizophrenic,
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but like there it must be you were saying that you're tapped in and you're
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hearing voices. That's got to be really scary at the same time.
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>> Yeah. So tell us about like what age were you when you started to hear voices
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and how do those show up?
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>> So they like I say they were always there for me. I could always hear
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crystals. So my father's my biological father's father and my biological's
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mother's father collected crystals and they're behind me.
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>> Okay.
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>> And I could hear them as a child. They would
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>> they would sing to me. They would they would tell me stories. It was literally
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like I didn't know any different that I could hear them. and not everybody else
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could.
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>> Okay. So, like a voice actually like coming out and telling you a story.
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>> Okay. I always Yes. But it doesn't sound like your voice sounds. It sounds
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somewhere between a voice and the ringing in your ears that you hear. It's
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somewhere in between that. Okay. I call it my inner listening. We all have
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different perceptions of reality. And for me, my listening is activated. I
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have a Gemini moon, which is to say Gemini rules the thoughts and so the
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sounds coming in sound noisy and it expresses differently for everybody. And
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the little ones, the kids, they're all tapped in in this magical way that I
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love. So I was very, very, very, very little when I knew that I could do
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things, but I didn't know that I was doing things. I was just doing things. I
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just was Jana. And then as I got older, it became very clear through what I was
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hearing about my father that he was hearing voices that his psychosis and
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his psychic psyche were all muddled. There was a mess in there. And so I for
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many years pushed away all of those things. And then in my 20s I had
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manifested an eating disorder to try to take control. And then I tried to take
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my own life to get out of this reality because it was too much. And I was like,
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okay, what do I need to do when I when I came back into my body, I was like, they
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said I was given a choice and to come back. And when I came back, I was like,
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all right, I got to make sense of this because that what you're talking about,
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A Beautiful Mind. I remember watching that movie and sobbing hysterically
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because it was very much the truth of my father. He is brilliant. the things that
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he thinks, the way that his mind works is inconceivable, but it's literally not
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of this earth. He's in a higher dimension, in a higher realm, and he has
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a very hard time grounding into reality. So, thankfully, I was raised by parents
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who grounded me and kept me in reality. But also, I was just drifting out to my
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Pisces reality being like, well, what else is out there? So, I blend the two,
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but it's never what I do has always been in me, but there's just been levels of
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like how far down I push it and suppress it versus how much I allowed to express
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it and, you know, live it. You know,
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>> you said that and I have so many questions. I don't even I'm just like um
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like yeah, I'm speechless now, which is not known for me. But, okay. So when you
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said that you would do things as a kid, like what were things that you would do
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that you were like it's so Jana but it was actually really listening to
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crystals or activity or something like how like what were some things that
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would happen that would be different than another child doing something like
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give us examples.
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>> Yeah, I mean like a lot of the thing like I was a kid who wanted to have
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candles in my room so young so so so young and it was my my mom was like no.
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Um,
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>> and also like I was a young kid when my friends would come to me and ask me for
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advice on things, little things, things that were insignificant. And then as I
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became a teenager, it was like they'd come to me and ask me about boys or
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about fighting with their own parents or whatever the thing was. And I would be
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able to like literally channel these answers for them. And they'd be like,
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"Well, what did you just say? Can you say that again?" And I'm like, "I don't
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know what I just said." But I didn't know that I was channeling. I was just
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being Janna. I was just letting it come through my my
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>> Yeah.
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>> myself, you know, and so it and and there were lots of things like that.
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Just being able to read a room, tapping in, knowing, you know, coming into a
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space that I'd never been. Like I remember being very young and my dad, my
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stepdad, um did a lot of work with with Big Brothers Big Sisters. He was the
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chair of Big Brothers Big Sisters. And I remember going to a Christmas party when
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we were I I was maybe 10 or 11. And I remember being there and feeling the
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pain of these little siblings and feeling how exciting it was that they
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were getting a Christmas present. And I was like the the pain of that was living
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in my body in a way that I had to like learn boundaries about and learn how to
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actually create layers of myself. But those kinds of things were innate for
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me. It was just normal. I could feel that and know it and know that this
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person was suffering in this way because their parent was this and this and this
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or that kid was having this experience. Like my gift is that I can see what's in
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people's blind spots, what they don't see, especially with the little ones
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because I can feel the way that their parents
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do try try to get them to be in this reality which is complex. And so
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yeah, the Did I answer your question?
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>> Yes. No, I'm okay. So you so that in your 20s you start to own this more,
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right? You have this experience to where you you know have your eating disorder.
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You almost try to take your own life but you come back because
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>> did the voices save you in that moment in your attempt to take your own life?
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>> Not in that moment. No, in that moment it was like I don't want to hear
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anymore. I don't want to be this way and I can't deny that I am. And like where's
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the exit strategy? Where's the where's the reality that's not this one? And so
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I tried to take my life so I wouldn't have to navigate it anymore when I came.
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>> What was your perception of death at that point?
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>> Uh I saw it as a as a end
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>> as like a That's right. Yeah. Um but now I'm highly aware that it is not there is
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no such thing as end. There just isn't. There is no such thing. Cobalistically
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we call this the suff the like no ending. There is no end. There is only
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regeneration of source energy forever and ever and ever. Time is fake.
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Everything is make believe. We're all just connected to this bigger source.
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>> Wow.
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>> But when I came back in the beginning, it there was still a
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lot of density around like I guess I'm still up in this [ __ ] I guess I'm
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still here. Um and then
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>> but you failed is what I'm just like. So
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>> correct. So, I was gone for 11 minutes and they brought me back.
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>> And my memory of it while I was on the other side is that my
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great-grandmothers, my mother's mother's mother, and my father's mother's mother
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came forward. They've been with me my whole life and I've always been able to
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connect with them. They both came forward and they were like, "You are too
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early. Go back."
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>> So, they offered me the choice and I chose to go back. When I did, first the
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density was very heavy and there were some real life things going on. I had a
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full-blown eating disorder. I was they had diagnosed me borderline personality,
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also bipolar. Like they had given me they were trying to figure out what was
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wrong with me, but there was nothing wrong with me. I was just Jana and I had
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a lot of emotions and sensitivities and a psychic gift that was being
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suppressed. And the more that I've let myself be this like psychotic psychic,
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the more that I've lived into, it's all good. It's fine. Like there's still a
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lot of density in the reality. There's still a lot of real things that exist
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here, but there's also an a there's also a a beyond that is very touchable if you
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let yourself, you know.
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>> So now you So this is in your 20s. Um and so then at what point were you like,
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okay, so you so you started to lean into it more, right? you started more of it
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>> and like fast forward to today and we don't know how old you are but like the
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past years okay 41 so for the past 20 years you have now been able to channel
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more into that and so now you work in that realm of listener you're Jana's a
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psychic right you're a psychic psychic healer connector so tell us about
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because listen there are skeptics right there are skeptics um out there you know
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we've talked about mediums there's smalls and large
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>> that's part of my Right.
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>> It's part of my gift
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>> and like it's so tell us a little bit about like how you help people. How do
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we know and I'm not calling you I'm not calling you not real but how do we know
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that like what you're saying is is real like tell us about that because there's
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some people like no way.
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>> Yeah. So I do have the gift of mediumship and I used to really really
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blow people's minds with it um all the time especially so when I first returned
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into my body which is like you can be as skeptical of all the things as you want.
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The facts are I was gone for 11 minutes and I am back still here breathing. When
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I came back, spirit because I had this understanding of of the psyche and I
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spent a lot of time in therapy but also an equal amount of time learning about
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metaphysics, learning about physics itself, studying astrology, studying
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cabala, studying quantum human design, studying studying studying because my
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Gemini moon is very curious. Um, I let myself go really really deep into
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allowing that I can hear these voices for a reason.
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And so the more that I let myself lean into that, the more that the muscle
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strengthened. And so like I have a course that I teach called psychic
19:34
literacy because I know that what I do is not special. Literally every single
19:40
person can do what I do. We're just not taught. We're taught the opposite.
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Because if everybody knew that they were psychic, all of capitalism would
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collapse in an instant. every system that we've known and understood would
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dissolve and if that happened overnight it would be madness. So for the system
20:01
not for humans humans would be fine. Um so yeah you know it it really became a
20:09
a game for me of allowing of like tolerating and by the way like that's
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what meditation is just allowing your thoughts. And so what I started to
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notice was the messages were coming through and it was clear for me in the
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way that you know me being at this Christmas party for Big Brothers Big
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Sisters, the feelings I was feeling. I'm like I I'm not emotional. I'm Jewish. I
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don't even celebrate Christmas. This is not even my holiday. I don't quote care.
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I I care but I don't care.
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>> And suddenly I I'm having all of these deep emotions like hold on these are not
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mine. Who are these messages for?
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>> And then as soon as I was creating boundaries and feeling what my strength
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is, like doing those reps of like, oh, the message is coming through this way.
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I'm hearing this. I'm feeling this. I know this. It's not mine. It's somebody
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else's. What does that mean? Suddenly, I was like feel I was very strong. And of
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course, because I'm a bit of a disruptor,
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>> the more that I let myself call myself a healer, call myself a psychic, an
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astrologer, all these things, it shapes people. I don't look like a psychic,
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right? But I promise that my gift is real. And so it does something to
21:29
reality just to be like this girl. Okay.
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>> Well, so you must get asked all the time, you know, do you feel anything
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when you're in front of people? Like so let's just try it out here. Is there
21:39
anything coming through to you right now from either one of us? Like are you
21:41
feeling are there any voices telling you anything? Anything that like does it
21:44
work like that? Like tell us how it works? Like do you do you see anyone
21:46
behind? Like tell us
21:49
>> there definitely is a woman. Um without question. Um but the way that it
21:56
works is like you know I I can ask like who is she?
22:01
You know, how does she The way she's showing up is like lovingly between you
22:09
and she's showing up uh like
22:15
hand on shoulders
22:17
>> like here.
22:19
>> That's
22:20
>> I know. But what shoulder? Like okay. actually like on the like she's
22:25
she's you know outside of both of you as in like there's a big protection that
22:29
she holds around the two of you that whoever she is I don't know if it's you
22:34
know your mother or your mother or who she might be and also the the way that
22:41
okay let me when I talk about spirit I often talk about spirit as being
22:46
something much much greater than us in the sense that like we tiny pitily human
22:51
beings are like ants and spirit is like the size of a human. So there is this
22:59
much bigger self that we become when we leave the body
23:03
>> and from that much bigger source I am feeling a woman. I am feeling a feminine
23:10
presence and again who it might be you can clarify with me in a moment and we
23:14
can do more of this game.
23:16
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um but who it might be is part of that an SOF is part of the the
23:23
source of all and the reason that it comes through for you guys is because
23:29
you're still in physical and you were connected to this person in some
23:34
meaningful way in life and her essence holds you both through this experience.
23:41
>> Interesting.
23:42
>> If you really want to see how it works, give me some context. Who is she?
23:46
I mean, it could be a million different people. I I wouldn't even know who would
23:50
you who what would you lead into?
23:52
>> It could be your mother.
23:54
>> Your grandma my mother. My mother.
23:57
>> Yeah. It could be I mean it could be a um my grandmother, his mom. Um that's
24:02
first. I would just think that would probably be like that would be
24:05
my grandmother.
24:06
>> Well, those are the ones we've known in life.
24:08
>> Yeah, that's ones. Yeah, we've known. But yeah,
24:10
>> but I also think that it could be like someone I what it could be someone I've
24:14
never met before. You know, someone who
24:16
>> unlikely.
24:18
>> Unlikely.
24:18
>> My name.
24:19
>> The way that it works,
24:20
>> who's your name say?
24:21
>> Annie.
24:22
>> Uh, could be. Yeah, it could be.
24:24
>> Yep. So,
24:25
>> yep. Um, the way that it works is that at least
24:30
for me, I always say spirit uses me like a switchboard. So, they can see who's
24:35
before me and then plug in. They just they plug in and they give the messages.
24:41
So
24:42
>> it does feel like it is your mother. It it just does.
24:48
>> Yours. Yes.
24:50
>> She fe because the the feeling is that she belongs to you but she cares
24:57
>> for Jamie, right? that there's this feeling of like, you know, and
25:03
>> the way she's showing up is, yes, she does feel very maternal, but I don't
25:08
jump to conclusions and we're not quote in a container here, right? We're not
25:13
right. And so the the messages that she has are mostly about like the way that
25:20
you guys operate. There's like a a big pride in the fact that you guys are able
25:24
to do what you're doing together, the way that you do it and the way that it
25:28
moves so smoothly. It is such a um like she's like a reverse mirror of your
25:34
dynamic with her and the way that she was with you and then there's like this
25:39
gift of being able to sort of like bridge that that rainbow over you and
25:45
all of the gift that you are. There's there's a lot of that kind of energy
25:49
coming through, which is why it does feel like your mom. Um, and and yeah,
25:55
just like a like a you're doing all right, kid is
26:01
like kind of what's what's there. Yeah,
26:04
>> that's cool. I love that. I mean, you might guess must get asked that all of
26:07
the
26:07
>> constantly. Constantly.
26:08
>> Yeah. All of the time. Like, you know, what what are you seeing? What are you
26:11
feeling? And it's got to be really hard. So, how do you sleep? You know, like we
26:15
like I know it to be, you know, like you think about the movies like um uh what's
26:19
six sense, right? Like you know, and it's like I see dead people like do you
26:23
ever see figures or you just feel the energy?
26:26
>> I so I don't see I hear um but um I sleep real well. I'm a Pisces. I sleep
26:34
real in fact I prefer sleep. Um I prefer sleep most of the time. Um how do I
26:41
sleep? I mean sleeping is not the problem. And and really the issue with
26:45
all of that um with the hearing is the boundary. So what I say by we're not in
26:52
a container is that I used to literally be on the street, see somebody, hear
26:57
their loved one come through and cross the street to talk to them and be like,
27:02
"Hi, I know this is weird, but I can hear this thing and I'm meant to give
27:08
you this message." And the thing that I would end up saying would be so deeply
27:13
meaningful that I would have total strangers crying on the street. And that
27:18
was very overwhelming. Not because I could hear it, but because I didn't I
27:23
felt compelled to go and give this thing.
27:27
>> I can't even imagine walking down the street and someone coming up to me and
27:29
being like, "By the way, here's a message from the dead."
27:32
>> It was very like Teresa Caputo, you know? It was very like Yeah. And though
27:39
I know it serves beautiful like messages, it it was draining for me. And
27:44
so what I've done over the 20 years that I've been back in my body is
27:51
fortify my own container that I don't want to just be
27:57
blowing people's minds in this way all the time cuz it is a lot for me. And it
28:02
was part of why my own mental health was never in balance. And so for me it's
28:07
like if there is I want to say like no good reason to go
28:13
there I don't go there but if there is a good reason we can go there you know
28:18
>> do you ever get and I've asked this before of people that have this gift
28:22
>> what if there's a message that comes in that's not a great message right like
28:25
>> I don't I don't I don't I no spirit and I have an agreement um I am not here to
28:31
be a deliverer of anything that you cannot handle. So if I and now I I
28:38
definitely give messages of like well maybe there is something that you're not
28:43
looking at that you need to look at and that can be hard
28:47
>> drawer left hand side.
28:49
>> Yeah. Exactly. Um, but I don't I don't believe in
28:57
delivering bad news.
29:02
>> And I don't um and I very much believe in in the importance of free will and
29:08
your capacity to choose. I think that we all have a destiny, but I think that how
29:12
we arrive at that destiny can best be achieved through free will. So I'm not
29:17
going to tell you this is gonna happen.
29:20
>> Yeah. Because if you if I tell you, one of two things will happen. You'll create
29:25
resistance to it or you'll lean into it. And then you'll never know if it's yours
29:29
or if I created it, which is not my job.
29:32
>> Yeah.
29:33
>> Period.
29:34
>> So, I don't give bad news. Period. At all.
29:37
>> It's so interesting. So, um, we I was a moderator for a conference earlier this
29:41
year, and one of the it was an author, and her name's Allison Richmond, and she
29:45
wrote a book called The Missing Pages,
29:47
>> and it's a historical fiction about the Titanic.
29:50
>> And so, she, it's in the book, they talk about a haunting, and she wanted to make
29:54
sure that she got it right, that she like, she understood it right, she
29:57
didn't put something in there that was wrong. And so, she proactively reached
30:00
out to a medium to talk with him about like, you know, what would a haunting
30:04
actually look like? What what can ghost from the past actually do? and he like
30:08
really corrected on a few things. So, I'd love to hear your take on that
30:10
because and it's it's wild because I when I was interviewing her, she was
30:13
sharing with stuff that she met with him, she didn't give any context about
30:16
the book and he came back and he actually shared information with her
30:19
>> that helped them solve something from the Titanic years later like it was
30:23
actually it's a wild story. Um, but like do you feel like everyday people like
30:28
hauntings wise, right? Like is that real? Like can the ghost come you hear
30:31
them
30:32
>> but could like a ghost move something? Could it go I mean like what what should
30:36
other people be aware of that you like experience?
30:40
>> I mean yes to all of that because to my point from a metaphysical perspective
30:48
nothing is real. Everything is a projection of the mind.
30:53
We are being constantly moved by spirit. Constantly we are being given signs and
30:59
symbols and numbers and and I I mean the universe the the universe is constantly
31:06
constantly sending us messages constantly. But we are very very
31:10
programmed to dim them out and not tune in and not do the things. And you know
31:15
if people are curious how you are doing that for yourself I have a little quiz
31:20
on my website that you can go to that will show you how you're doing it. But
31:24
>> the the point that I'm trying to make is that it's it's really is all make
31:30
believe. And sometimes as that teeny tiny little ant, spirit will come in and
31:35
move you from a ledge that you don't know you're about to fall off of and
31:38
move you. And sometimes that looks like your door creaking open. Sometimes that
31:44
looks like, you know, a crystal that you know you put one place, it's gone all of
31:48
a sudden or whatever those things might be. Sometimes those things do happen
31:55
because none of this is real. It is scientifically proven that if you are
32:00
not observing what you are observing, it is inobservable and it is infinite
32:04
possibilities of force. There are supernatural things
32:10
that happen because we live in a supernatural reality, but our brains
32:17
don't want us to. So the skeptics are just to me they're just in a density
32:21
that I'm like you'll get there. It's not my business. It's fine. I don't need to
32:24
convince you of how real or not real this reality is. We all exist in a
32:28
dimension that is far beyond this. And we will go back to that dimension
32:32
eventually. And when we do, there will be a different understanding from that
32:36
consciousness. But in this consciousness, it's not my business
32:38
whether people believe it or not. But yes, hauntings really do happen. And a
32:42
lot of it is because there is a vibration of something that is not yet
32:51
complete that those entities feel they want completion. They're
32:56
they're they're sticking to it. And so they stay in the density even though
33:01
they're not in a body. And then there's like this almost
33:06
like spiritual psychosis that's happening, but they're not in a body,
33:11
which is exactly actually what The Six Sense is about, right? It's about a guy
33:14
who doesn't even realize he's dead.
33:16
>> Yeah.
33:17
>> Spoiler.
33:17
>> Oh, yeah. Spoiler alert.
33:20
>> And Johnny Wahberg like lost a ton of weight for it. But um no, so no one ever
33:24
realized that was him in the movie. Um so how do you help people today? Like so
33:28
I know that you've already talked with us. you kind of share with that, but
33:30
like tell us about like how does somebody work with you? How does some
33:33
like what is that? I know you've got a website. Like what is your reality today
33:37
that you're doing with your superpower?
33:39
>> I train people that we are all psychic and I do it through the understanding of
33:46
your reality and the ways in which you specifically believe in the density and
33:51
are conditioned. So that could be childhood trauma, that could be um you
33:56
know just experiences from your life. also is connected to your astrology to
34:01
your natal chart from the moment that you took your first breath into this
34:04
density and got stuck for a life sentence. It also has it also has
34:09
everything to do with um you know the ways in which your life is being
34:13
expressed and then we look in the beyond. So that could be through oracle
34:18
cards or other channels. It could be just through like what sort of sometimes
34:23
feels like therapy sessions. Thankfully, I have, you know, probably 30,000 hours
34:28
of therapy under my belt after 40 years of having a schizophrenic father and my
34:32
own mental health stuff. So, I know a lot of therapeutic stuff and talk. I've
34:37
done CBT and DBT and I've done meditation and I've done classical
34:41
therapy and I've done hypnotherapy and I've done psycho, you know, psych
34:45
spiritual therapy and you name it. So, um I sort of blend all of those things
34:51
and I work in containers of 90 days or more. usually 90 days or a year
34:56
depending on how what people need and for what. And we look at, okay, who were
35:02
you designed to be and why the hell aren't you being that? What was in the
35:05
way? What stories are you stuck to? Because most of this density and the
35:09
reality, most of all of what humanity is is stories. We're just history. We're
35:14
just this thing happened and now I'm this or that thing didn't happen and now
35:20
I believe this. And so changing that narrative, changing your thoughts
35:25
changes your reality. We know this to be true. And so I literally I I talk about
35:31
it like just it's psychic boot camp. We're just strengthening those muscles.
35:36
Understanding how your gifts show up, in what ways, for what purpose, what are
35:40
you here for, what's in the way of you being that self, and then how do you
35:44
live fully and completely like it doesn't matter.
35:47
>> Yeah.
35:48
>> All the conditioning. Um, I'd love to give the audience a little teaser,
35:50
right? Like what are some things that they can do to channel their own psychic
35:54
power even more? You know, like is there like little things that you start off
35:58
with that would be advice to them to say, "Hey, try doing this." I mean, I
36:02
there's people who have passed in my life who I would love to be able to
36:05
connect with. I would love to just like have one more conversation or just to
36:09
somehow connect with them again. And I'm sure there are many listeners who feel
36:12
the same way that there's people that they would love to just have like
36:15
another moment or to feel their presence or something like that. So what are some
36:20
things that we can do that without giving away your coaching but just some
36:23
like teaser?
36:24
>> No, sure. No, of course.
36:25
>> Help people connect with that.
36:27
>> You have to quiet yourself and get into a nice quiet spot.
36:30
>> Shut up. I'm just kidding.
36:34
>> You're right. You're exact. That is exactly what I was going to say is like
36:38
well have you turned off your phone and your TV and all of the other things that
36:42
are distracting you and let yourself receive those messages because we are
36:48
antenna. We are we are constantly constantly sending out a signal and
36:54
receiving a signal. If you want to hear from a loved one, get very specific and
37:01
trust that it's going to happen and then sh
37:07
really and truly that's all it is. So in a more practical way, let's say that
37:13
you're like, I really want to connect with this particular friend
37:17
>> or whomever. Think about what their life was and the
37:22
ways in which you connected with them. Right?
37:28
Let's say for example that there was a particular movie that you watched with
37:33
this person that like every time you watched this movie you were like, "Oh
37:37
god, that movie killed us. We loved it. It was our thing." You know, or maybe
37:41
it's not a movie. Maybe you baked together. Maybe you whatever the thing
37:46
is, okay? Maybe you played in the field together. Whatever. Think about what
37:50
your lived experience was with this person. And then think about what that
37:54
special thing is. What is that thing? I have a girlfriend who passed away years
37:57
ago and she was she used to make these beautiful
38:03
intricate dream catchers like just out of string and she'd make them in these
38:09
big beautiful frames and she was incredible.
38:13
I know that every time I see a dream catcher I'm like I know you're out there
38:18
girl. Thank you so much. Love and miss you. That's like my sign with her
38:22
specifically. My grandmother, my my mom's mom who's passed, she and I have a
38:29
ladybug agreement. Period. Her husband and I have dimes. We He will always send
38:37
me silver coins. He was He It used to be pennies, but now we don't have them in
38:40
Canada anymore. So, but he was a guy who literally until he was too old to do it
38:47
picked up pennies and he was a very successful man. He picked up pennies
38:51
until the day he couldn't do it anymore. So now I know when I see coins, he's
38:55
sending me a message. Sometimes it's numbers. You can say, "Okay, well they
38:59
were this age when they died or they died on this date. Send me a message."
39:06
Then trust the messages coming. Sit in silence for a little while and then go
39:11
out and live your life and observe how many ladybugs come across your your
39:15
path. Maybe not physical ladybugs. Maybe a ladybug is painted on the side or
39:19
maybe you see a a you know a bug Volkswagen bug or m right like there are
39:25
so many different ways that they come through but the more that you doubt
39:28
yourself thanks conditioning the less that you believe that this message is
39:33
coming there for you and I will say numbers are the best way this is why
39:38
people get all hype about 11-11 but I promise you that 528 is as significant
39:45
as 11-11 if somebody died on May 28th or if May 28th was their birthday or if May
39:53
28th was the day they got married or whatever. But it's really about
39:57
connecting the dots and trusting that in the all that is in in the aim in the no
40:04
ending space in in source it is all connected. And the more that you're like
40:10
that's crazy never mind that's a coincidence. Well, okay, if you say so.
40:15
And also the opposite.
40:18
>> Yeah. I think it it's so I can't even imagine
40:24
how
40:26
>> like I coined myself coin. Sorry. There there there it is. He just gave me
40:29
another one. Um as like an empathic. I feel the energy of other people, but I
40:33
can't even imagine how you are every single day feeling that and navigating
40:37
that. And you know what do you do to outside? You already said you channel
40:42
it, you bring it in, but how do you quiet your noise?
40:46
>> I do spend a lot of time alone a lot. Um, and my alone time is
40:53
productive alone time, meaning I'm meditating. I play with my crystal
40:57
bowls. I have tuning forks. I like I I, you know, red lights and all
41:03
the things that I need to do. I light my candles at night. I I spend time with me
41:08
in productive ways. And I actively when I leave the house or
41:15
when I do anything, I know that I have an energetic field. I have an aura. I
41:20
have a a capacity. Mine is large. I know it. I'm 5'1, but I promise that
41:25
energetically I'm not. Um, and so I spend a lot of time repairing the holes.
41:33
I'm very, very conscientious about what creates holes.
41:38
drugs, alcohol, like any of those things. Like I don't smoke a lot of
41:41
weed, I don't drink, I don't do any of those kinds of things because it creates
41:46
holes that lets energy leak in. So too with all of the things that we're
41:51
consuming, right? You are what you eat. So I'm also mindful about what goes in
41:57
my body, what goes in my eyes, what goes in my brain, what am I reading, what am
42:02
I connecting to, who do I let around my energy field, who do I need to like put
42:07
a little bit further, what relationships are draining, what relationships are
42:11
lifegiving. I'm I'm extremely conscientious about those things almost
42:16
obsessively
42:18
>> so that when I go out in the world and give my gift I get to do it in a way
42:23
that actually is nourishing because I come whole and complete and when you
42:28
look at
42:29
>> correct when you look at empathic children they don't yet know that
42:33
they're not whole and complete right they learn it through the conditioning
42:38
but when you watch them you'll also see that very very sensitive children will
42:46
create boundaries for themselves. They'll go my niece is one of them is I
42:51
mean they all are but one in particular she is so sensitive. She's cancer.
42:57
She is so sensitive that when she's not regulated she knows I need a minute and
43:03
she'll go away and do her own thing and just regulate herself because she knows
43:08
she's just got to get back into her shell. Right. I gotta go. I gotta go in.
43:12
I gotta I gotta get in there. And so we have these tools. And what I do is
43:17
fortify the boundary. So that whatever is happening inside is mine. Whatever's
43:22
happening outside is not. So I'm not absorbing everybody's everything, which
43:27
I used to do a lot. And empaths do that a lot. And then they wear it like like
43:32
it's part of their braveness. Like I I feel everybody's everything. Like girl,
43:36
that is not a flex. It's not a flex.
43:38
>> It's not a flex. It's a weakness.
43:40
>> Yeah.
43:42
>> Janet, is is dad still with us?
43:45
>> Yep.
43:46
>> What What's When was his first schizophrenic incident? Pardon my voice.
43:50
I got a little langitis.
43:51
>> No problem. I hope you feel better. You need some ginger and lemon.
43:54
>> Um
43:55
>> I'll take
43:59
>> So, it's very difficult to give that answer.
44:03
Um his mother will say that in the 60s when he was a teenager he started doing
44:09
a lot of acid and that that exponentiated.
44:14
>> She will also tell stories about his childhood from very young when he was
44:19
still sleeping in a crib and that he could do things psychically and she's
44:25
extremely psychic and she and I are very psychically connected. We often will
44:29
send each other messages in the fifth dimension and then message, you know,
44:32
reach out to each other in physical. Did you hear that? Did you see that? Are you
44:36
okay? Whatever it is. She had a fall a couple weeks ago and my father told me
44:40
about it. He does not speak to her. He said, "Grandma, grandma needs the
44:44
hospital." And then I called her and was like, "Are you okay?" She said, "No, I
44:50
was I had a fall. How did you know?" And I was like, "Dad told me." And she was
44:54
like, "I didn't I haven't spoken to him. I don't want him to know." And I was
44:57
like, well, he already knows, but okay. Um, so it's hard to know when that first
45:03
began. If my father were born today, we would say he's a special needs child on
45:09
the spectrum, but he was born not today.
45:13
>> And so, you know, the way that his energy was, it was hard to navigate. And
45:19
then he had a very, very traumatic experience. when he was 8 years old, my
45:25
grandmother's father died in New York. They were living here in Toronto and
45:29
they drove from here. They were driving to New York and on the way they had a
45:35
very serious car accident. My father went through the window and was
45:40
literally lucky to be alive and thought that his parents were dead. My
45:44
grandmother thought that he was. It was like truly a miraculous thing that he
45:50
even lived through it. and she says that was the beginning of the
45:56
end for him and he says that was the beginning of the end for her. I imagine
46:02
if one person loses their father and almost loses their son in the same day
46:07
that's a traumatizing moment and relating to that kid who has a lot of
46:11
energy and intensity and a four planetary stellium in Scorpio. It's a
46:18
lot.
46:20
>> Yeah. And then it started to manifest. So then he was not getting what he
46:24
needed from his mother. And then you know 9 10 11 now hormones are coming in
46:29
and he had a brand new adopted baby sister. And then the rebelliousness in
46:34
teenage years and then the normal things for his age group of you know tripping
46:39
on acid doing this and that whatever but then he sort of left his body and never
46:45
came back. He's gone up into a dimension that he cannot come back down into. When
46:51
I found him when he had been homeless, so he showed up at our front door. My
46:56
grandmother didn't recognize him.
46:58
>> And I went got in the car and drove to town to go and find him cuz he had left
47:03
from our front door. I checked the cameras and he had gone back down into
47:07
town. And I got in the car and I found him and he knew exactly who I was. I
47:13
said, "It's Janna." He knew exactly who I was, but could barely string a
47:18
sentence together, barely make things make sense because four years of being
47:23
on the street talking to himself and 40 plus years of being out of his mind, in
47:29
and out of institutions, on and off medications, this medication, that
47:33
medication, this thing, that treatment, electroshock therapies, this thing. you
47:37
know, he was like as a as a teen, a young teen, he was sent to military
47:43
school, but then also was like strapped to a bed, you know, in in psych war.
47:49
It's like, how could anybody ever be okay after that? It's so hard to know.
47:54
So, from my perspective, he was like a very psychic kid who did not get any of
48:00
the tools to be on the spectrum of light.
48:04
>> Yeah.
48:04
>> And then went off the rails.
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>> Yeah. because you understand it.
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>> Correct.
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>> We are about out of time. Is there any advice that you want to give to us that
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you're feeling or anything that you want to share with our listeners? Any last
48:15
minute thoughts that are coming to you before we wrap up our conversation?
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>> Who's the young boy?
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>> That's me.
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>> I don't know. Young I don't know how what age
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>> I don't know
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>> what's he saying to you.
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>> Any physical characteristics?
48:31
>> No, I don't see I hear. So,
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>> any saying anything?
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>> Any names?
48:53
>> No. I It's clear that there has been a loss,
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like a big one, in your family. If if you're seeing him as a boy, he
49:03
must have passed as a boy
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>> possibly or maybe there was like a a miscarriage or like it really does work
49:13
like that, you know, and so and again, I don't know whose miscarriage, right? But
49:19
there is um a little boy and there is a mother. But again, right, like it's so
49:28
vague in that sense. tied more to me or to Jamie?
49:33
>> More to you.
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>> More to you.
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>> The mother figure that's there as well, too. Are they too separate?
49:42
>> They're distant. They're They're distant. They're tied.
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Everything. I mean, they're for you guys, so they're tied.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Right.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't know about that. We'll have to go back and ask the family. I had a
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brother who died very young and he was going to be the last child of the family
50:01
and he passed unusual circumstances and they had me be like a substitute for
50:06
him. So it's kind of if he was he was alive I still be on the other side
50:10
someplace.
50:11
>> Huh. Huh. Yeah. That's very interesting. Yeah it interesting. Um
50:21
yeah I get it. the Okay. Okay. I'm gonna give it to you
50:26
like it's coming through because there it is now. Now that I have the pieces,
50:30
um, it certainly feels like and I don't know
50:35
how this affects you in your life today and I don't know how it shows up in your
50:39
relationship as, you know, father and daughter and it almost is irrelevant.
50:45
Sorry, Jamie. Um, but however this lands and you're I'm open
50:51
to whatever this opens for you to to dialogue about it. Um, the story that
50:58
you were the replacement or the like substitute is not the truth
51:05
that you were extremely wanted and not just as a standin.
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And so sorry.
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>> I said, "Does it make him feel better?"
51:17
>> Long time ago.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. But it still shows up because you're still here.
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>> Yeah.
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>> It's wild.
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>> We're We're catching the next plane to Toronto.
51:27
>> Yeah. Well, we'll be able to come in there. Jana, thank you so much for being
51:32
our guest. Thank you for connecting with us. Thank you for sharing your gift with
51:36
us. Uh we're so grateful. and listener, we will share how to connect with Jana
51:40
so you can too learn more about your own inner superpower and your own, you know,
51:45
um, psychic presence in the world and reach out to her if you if you're
51:49
curious about more and and having those same conversations. So, we're so
51:52
grateful that you took time to talk.
51:53
>> I cannot promise you a strange vortex here in Sarasota, but should you find
51:57
yourself
51:58
>> Are you in Sarasota? Yeah,
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>> I'll be there in like two weeks. Should we have lunch?
52:05
>> Oh my god. Yes, 100%. So, yes. Okay. So, we will we'll private message off of
52:09
this. Um,
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>> yeah, I was gonna say like,
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>> yeah, I'll email you. We'll get together for sure. Um,
52:14
>> that's where my dad is. That's where my grandmother is.
52:17
>> So, we have some friends with we're going to connect. We have some families
52:21
that we know with the same last name in this area. So, I don't know if it's
52:23
connected or not. We won't do it publicly here, but I'll email you. We'll
52:26
connect. And when you're here, we'll talk. And
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>> I would love that.
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>> Yes. Thank you so much.
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>> We didn't make this up.
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>> No, we didn't. Like, that's crazy.
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>> Literally could not have. And this is very excit. No, I'm never sweating.
52:40
>> Well, on that note, go cool off. I will message you. Thank you for being our
52:44
guest. We're so grateful. Thank you. You guys are so special. You're very, very
52:48
lucky to get to do this together. You should know that.
52:51
>> We I'm super grateful. Yes.
52:54
>> He's wanted for sure with me. So,
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>> thank you so much, Jana. We'll talk soon. All right. Bye. Bye.
53:01
see I mean but yeah but like that's I mean did you ever feel that way growing
53:05
up that you weren't like you really weren't wanted? It wasn't a question not
53:08
being wanted. It was a question that may not have ever materialized if he was
53:12
there. My, you know, my mother's sisters couldn't have kids. They had three. Mom
53:16
had three kids and that was that was the max. They couldn't afford more than
53:19
that. So, they had no plan of having any more beyond him. But the way he died was
53:23
just so unusual. You know, play with the neighbor and neighbor he fell off the
53:26
bed, a combination of stuff that they would not have had another child.
53:29
>> That's why Well, thank goodness that we they did because none of this would have
53:32
happened without you being part of it.
53:35
>> Listener,
53:36
>> we don't even know what this is. We could be I'm in the ether right now.
53:39
>> What a like what an energy, right? Like she's just like full. I like just I felt
53:42
that aura. So listener, we hope that you enjoyed this episode as well too. We
53:46
will post Jana's information so you can connect with her and tap into your
53:50
psychic abilities or learn more from her. Dad, thanks for
53:54
>> the problem is when you sit with you, you got to say, "Don't think that. Don't
53:56
think that."
53:57
>> I know. I was nervous. I was like, "What's you know, there's obviously
54:01
there's been great loss in my life. Um, so I wasn't sure what would come
54:04
through, but if your mom is certainly here with us, I'll take that all day
54:08
long. Oh, I have to remind you about something when we get off this call, by
54:10
the way.
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>> I'm going to have to build one of those tin foil helmets to put on.
54:13
>> Oh my goodness. All right, listener, thank you for listening. Thank you for
54:16
joining us. Jana, thank you again. That's her story. If you've got a story
54:19
to share, no matter what it is, everyone does. We all around this planet have
54:22
some sort of story. Join us. Connect with us at connectjamieco.com.
54:26
>> And to all to all you spirits out there, come on.
54:30
>> Yeah, we're ready. We're ready. Bye everyone.